Re: [libreoffice-users] fyi: Java dependance, and others

Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I was forgetting the Report Builder wizard but i thought it was best to avoid using that anyway?  
>   
I avoid Oracle Report Builder too!  For me, it is a basket case and 
needs a lot of work.
> Your division of Back-end into 2 parts; data and server made a lot of sense.  Using the word "Client" instead of "Front-end" also makes sense and is probably more familiar to a lot of people now anyway as we hear the terms "email client" rather than "email front-end" and such.  
>   
These are the terms that I have always used. However, I have seen the 
*-end terms used also.  But IMHO client - server seems more logical and 
informative of what they do, than front-end - back-end.
> Are you offering to review the Base Guide that is in ODFAuthors?  or could you email Dan to see what he suggests?  There might be some good reason why he has gone a more generic route with the guide and perhaps is saving up the divisions for another chapter or a guide aimed at a different level of users.  
>   
Well, I could offer suggestions, but I am not the writer, so I could 
only suggest.  As you say, there may be other reasons for the current 
manual references.  However, I have seen postings on this forum from 
confused novice users, who could have benefited by additional background 
information on the database "system".  I realize that with so many 
possible servers out there, writing a manual section on each one and how 
it fits into the Base system could be daunting.  I have run across many 
other documents relating to configuring MySQL and Base, but there are 
all the other servers that could use some documentation regarding how to 
set them up with Base.  That setup documentation is currently lacking in 
my view.  Maybe the recent work of translating the German handbook will 
correct that.  But the users surely need more documentation on 
connecting to servers other than the bundled default HSQLDB internal 
server, which does not have a good reputation with some users.  In that 
light, I would also suggest some words to the effect that "...here is 
the embedded HSQLDB, but if you want a serious database server 
connection, we recommend using x, y or z. Now here is how you connect 
them..."  Documentation on connecting Base to external servers may be at 
least a chapter in itself, with each server as a separate section in 
that chapter so the user could go to that section and perform a 
particular process to connect it.  The users should not be required to 
do all the time-consuming research and study to find how to connect 
his/her preferred server to Base.  I could offer some words on MySQL, 
but I have no experience with the other servers.  I just realized that 
the scope expands to include processes for the different operating 
systems that LO and the different servers can run under!  That would 
make writing it even more daunting.  I can see now why it has not been 
attempted to date.  But I think it should still be done for the user's 
and the future of Base's sake.
> Regards from
> Tom :)  
>
>   
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Regards,
Girvin Herr


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