Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Portable

Hi :)
False positives and the need to switch off security on a regular basis in order to do fairly 
routine tasks is such a normal part of the Windows world.  

According to most antivirus companies around 20% of Windows machines are infected with some sort of 
malware.  Apparently MS were quite proud when their new antivirus program found it was more like 
80% (of machines that people were worried about).  All of which fails to recognise that Windows 
could be classed as a trojan in it's own right.  Anti-virus programs try to get ahead of the curve 
by worrying about programs that could be executables and therefore have at least a 20% chance of 
being malware.  Anything that is going to mess with the registry is also a worry for an antivirus 
program.  To flag or not to flag.  Each security program has to decide just how likely it is that 
the users actually wants to install programs other than itself and then balance that against the 
likelihood that the users is being fooled into doing something they might not have thought about.  
After all, anyone that installs/has Windows and then worries about security is
 at least 20% likely to have an infected machine already.  If in doubt, blame the user for 
following instructions!  There must be an alternative to the paranoia of the Windows world but 
would people use it?  I keep getting sucked back into dealing with Windows (mostly to fix 
colleagues problems admittedly) and i'm guessing most people do, even here.  

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 15/12/11, M Robinson <mr.m.robinson@gmail.com> wrote:

From: M Robinson <mr.m.robinson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Portable
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 15 December, 2011, 0:26

It is a first for me, I download OS's and other large files regularly.

Thanks, again.

On 12/14/2011 7:03 PM, David S. Crampton wrote:
> I don't know why. Sorry experience suggested it. I have seen this
> behavior on 3 different antivirus scanners over the years. All in
> Windows OS. No useful user feedback.  Not even an event registered to
> event logs.
>
> If you download a lot you might see it in other downloads. I answered a
> similar question in this forum about a month ago. Same thing.
>
> I can see it in theory. The scanner is looking for "tokens" or sequences
> of binary code that are associated with virus / worm executables.  It's
> not improbable that a huge download, using compression, would generate
> enough of similar looking binary string to trigger a false positive.
>
> Why the antivirus scanner doesn't tell you what's happened? Mystery.
>
> I'm glad you got it,
> David
>
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 15:30:52 -0800, M Robinson <mr.m.robinson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That worked. Why does that work?
> > I'm using Avast 6.0.1367, and it hasn't thrown any flags while silently
> > killing ONLY LibreOffice Portable downloads.
> >
> > On 12/14/2011 6:14 PM, David S. Crampton wrote:
> > > Try to turn off your realtime antivirus scanner. Unload it or stop the
> > > process.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:33:40 -0800, Pedro <pedlino@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > M Robinson wrote
> > > > >          What's the story with LibreOffice Portable, I've been
> > > > > trying to
> > > > > download the file since PortableApps released version 10. It doesn't
> > > > > matter which site a attempt to download from I end up with an
> > > > > incomplete
> > > > > file of 19.9 MB, the downloads start with a file side of 121 MB.
> > > >
> > > > That seems to be a problem with the PortableApps mirrors or your
> > > > download
> > > > manager.
> > > > Try to get LibreOffice separately from
> > > > http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable
> > > >
> > > > In any case you should ask at the PortableApps forum since
> > > > LibreOffice or
> > > > TDF can't help you on this problem ;)
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > View this message in context:
> > > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Portable-tp3586506p3586838.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


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