Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New design

Websites now expect people to mouse-over everything, but it didn't start 
that way.
Key-command users hardly ever touch a mouse, but most people aren't 
fluent in this regard and don't attempt it as a method until they really 
understand how much quicker it is.

See other responses below.

On 11/28/2011 6:35 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 05:23 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
> > Citrus has one thing right.
> >
> > When editing a document you need "Insert - Styles - Text - View".
> > Float "Document", "Page", "Paragraph" and "Defaults" where ever you 
> > want, but most are used to the upper left hand corner.  Heck, maybe 
> > "Paragraph" should be under "Defaults" anyway.
> >
> > Why "Styles" instead of "Paragraph" before "Text".  Because once you 
> > start writing documents over 2 pages, your not going to edit that way 
> > unless you really are GUI only.
> >
> > What they got wrong was where they put it.
> > The optimum is when you right click anywhere in the document and 
> > "Insert, Styles, Text, View"
> > shows up there. Don't waste space putting things on the edge.  Once a 
> > sub-menu is paused on, it stays open unless you move your cursor to 
> > the next sub-menu.
> If you keep do not keep the menus the same, what happens with the 
> Extensions that add to the top-level of menus, like  Linguist, 
> Writer's Tools, and Writer's Extras?  Would they still work or have to 
> be redesigned?
Menus and sub-menus of a right click at cursor position are 
added/edited/removed the same as always. My discomfort is in the 
distances to acquire the majority of most used editing actions.

The "Tools" menu comes to mind.  I don't use it that often and could be 
in the upper left.
The "Tables" menu should be under "Insert" for new and auto-magically 
added to the primary menu when for edit/remove/options on right click.
> How about all of the other toolbars that are part of LO's top and 
> bottom of the "window"?  Will this new design allow these toolbars to 
> be used?  I use many of them that I lock to either the top or the 
> bottom area of the "window".  I need many of these tools for my LO work.
>
> There are a lot of things to be thought through before changes are made.
Was not trying to change that part of displayed information, only 
shifting most used commands nearer.
> > Add "Cut" to menu if an object (letter, frame, whatever...) is 
> > selected and add "Paste" to next click point. If it doesn't happen 
> > then, "Paste" is always under "Insert" for last object.
> >
> > If you want it sexy, use flat rectangle selection sub-menu (mouse 
> > movement or up/down arrow keys) rotated based on cylindrical movement 
> > (mouse movement or wheel or left/right arrow keys).
> Many people do not have a wheel on their mouse, like laptops for one.  
> Does Macs still use only one mouse button?  I have not used one since 
> 2000 or so, so I do not know.  We go not want to tie a function to a 
> button or mouse wheel if these buttons or wheels are not on all of the 
> user's computers.  How many people use laptops as their only computers 
> [other than tablets and smart phones].
Yes, but Macs still have the Command key button, Press Command key and 
menus arrive.
Laptops don't have wheels, but once right-clicked, the pad is it's 
equivalent.
As stated, use arrows-keys if you do not have other available.


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